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Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 in Model Tanks

What size AC motor do I need to turn a 6" diameter pulley that will wind up a cable with 50kg resistance?

I sucked at physics in undergrad and I suck at physics even more now. Thanks.

We'll need more information. Technically 50 kg is a mass and you're trying to overcome a force. If you put the object on a scale and the scale read 50 kg, the scale was converting the 50 kg mass into Newtons on the earth's surface and expressing the result (wrongly) in kg.

Remember F = ma?

F in Newtons = mass (in kg) x acceleration (in m/s²)

on earth, a = 9.81 m/s², so a 50 kg mass exerts a force of

9.81 x 50 = 490.5 Newtons

Now we'll need to know how rapidly you want to lift this mass.

The formula for motor horsepower is

Power (in HP) = 0.7457 (Horsepower per Kilowatt) x Torque (in Newton-meters) x 2π x rotational speed (in rpm) / 60 (seconds per minute) / 1000 (watts / kilowatt)

This gives you shaft power output. Because of the motor's ineffiecencies, you will need to apply between 25% and 33% more input power than you expect to extract.

If you attach the cable directly to a 6" diameter drum and the cable is lifting a 50 kg mass, the torque on the shaft is

490N x 3 inches (the pully radius) x 0.0254 (meters per inch) = 37.33 Newton-meters

The shaft output power for a typical 1760 rpm electric motor will be

HP = 0.7457 x 37.33 x 2π x 1760 / 60,000

= 7.01

You'll need a motor rated at about 10 HP to do this job.

You will also want to consider stepping down the speed, which will decrease the efficiency of the system considerably but will also reduce the speed the cable is wound onto the pully (in this example it's at 46 feet per second or about 30 miles per hour).

If you use a step-down gear to reduce the take-up speed to 1 foot per second, the rotational speed drops to about 38 rpm and the shaft horsepower drops to 0.15 HP. Of course the gearing introduces a great deal more inefficiency and the resulting rated horsepower of the motor might have to be as much as 3 times the calculated output. You would be looking at a 1/2 or 3/4 HP motor.

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